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Suicune
Jul 8, 2007 12:57:23 GMT -5
Post by davidum on Jul 8, 2007 12:57:23 GMT -5
Suicune
-a threat to any netbattler out there
Type: water
Stats: Hp-100 att-75 def-115 sp.att-90 sp.def-115 speed-85
Ability: Pressure - Makes the for waste 2PPs instead of one.
Set 1: stalling whore Suicune@leftovers EVs- 252hp/208 def/10 sp.att/40 sp.def -surf -rest -calm mind -ice beam/sleep talk
Opinion: No words.
This thing might prolly stall the crap out of teams with it's godly defense and HP, and with calm mind to boot. Calm mind a few times, then surf away the things not resistant to it. Ice beam celebi to oblivion, or rest and sleep talk can do well with opponents, considering that you have a spare ice pokemon. Also used as a status absorber, and a sleep talker, it's a threat that all netbattlers have to worry about. Beats blissey and goes 1-on-1 with lax. Be careful with Zapdos or raikou though.
Set 2: substitute set Suicune@leftovers/chesto berry EVs- 252hp/124 def/134 sp.def bold, calm, or modest nature -substitute -ice beam/surf -rest -calm mind
Opinion: Max HP is required in this set to create 4 substitutes. Ice beam dragons and celebi, or surf the rest. Rest when you used up the substitutes, and calm mind while the opponent is napping or switching. I don't recommend this set, because the 1st one has more staying power.
Counters: Celebi, ludicolo, zapdos, raikou, electric pokemon,
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Suicune
Jul 12, 2007 18:13:02 GMT -5
Post by samthedigital on Jul 12, 2007 18:13:02 GMT -5
That second set will never work. Rest and Sub together are a waste. Suicune doesn't need subs with Rest. As for the first set, take off from HP to have 401 HP, take off from the special stats and add to def and speed. It is a good idea to have enough speed to out speed Marowak. Also, Suicune doesn't need Sleep Talk. Roar is much better and makes Suicune a better team player.
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Suicune
Jul 15, 2007 13:57:53 GMT -5
Post by davidum on Jul 15, 2007 13:57:53 GMT -5
But with sleeptalk, Suicune has more staying power than the roar version.
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Suicune
Jul 15, 2007 18:42:53 GMT -5
Post by samthedigital on Jul 15, 2007 18:42:53 GMT -5
Roar makes Suicune a team player, and in skilled hands with spike it can be really dangerous. Sleep Talk on Suicune generally means that its team play is not very good. Roar is the better option.
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Post by pokegod on Aug 5, 2007 1:03:13 GMT -5
Substitute on Suicune with Rest is simply retarded. It's got absolutely no reason for being there... The superior subcune has max HP and Special Attack (well maybe enough speed to outrun Marowak), Modest nature, and this set:
Surf/Hydro Pump Ice Beam Calm Mind Substitute
That, my friends, is Subcune. Not that bullshit with rest.
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Suicune
Aug 5, 2007 20:03:32 GMT -5
Post by samthedigital on Aug 5, 2007 20:03:32 GMT -5
'That bullshit with rest' is the standard. Suicune just doesn't work with Substitute. First of all Suicune isn't trying to sweep, and having max special attack is useless. Suicune needs to be able to switch into things like Tyranitar. It can't do that when investing stats in special attack. It will also have its substitute broken by most Pokemon when having no defense EVs. The superior Suicune lives a long time and doesn't try to be gimmicky. Why does Suicune want to sweep right away? With Substitute it doesn't live long. It lives quite a while with Rest.
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